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You have to look at South Africa as South Africa, but then you have to think about its economic

security and political influence in the Southern African region first, but then again, sort

of across the continent and then again at the global level because if you're going to

want an African perspective on a global challenge, right, whether that's internet privacy or

climate change or even thinking about strategic competition, the South African voice is going

to hold a lot of weight and it's going to be representative, maybe not every country

in Africa loves that, but it will represent many African views.

I'm David Prius and this is the LawFair podcast July 16th, 2021.

National security attention rarely focuses for long on sub-Saharan Africa and when it does,

it's largely on the most populous countries like Nigeria, Ethiopia and the Democratic Republic

of the Congo.

Former intelligence community and national security council official Judd Devermont, now

director of the Africa program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, wants

to change that.

Along with Nicole Willett, who used to cover Africa for the State Department, the National

Security Council and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Judd has created and co-hosts

the new podcast called 49 Now Available Everywhere.

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