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Afraid to Look: The Moth Radio Hour

The Moth

The Moth

Arts, Performing Arts

4.6 • 25.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This episode originally aired on October 19, 2021. If you've been moved by a story this year, text 'GIVE25' to 78679 to make a donation to The Moth today. In this hour, stories of nerves, anxiety, fear! And the courage and support that allow us to overcome. A phone call, a taxi ride, and a stranger's generosity of spirit. This episode is hosted by Catherine Burns. The Moth Radio Hour is produced by The Moth and Jay Allison of Atlantic Public Media. Storytellers: Amanda Stern reaches a breaking point with her anxiety. Tim Manley's repressed feelings start to manifest themselves physically.  Nervous bride-to-be Anoush Froundjian introduces her fiancé to her Armenian traditions.  Cheryl Murfin forgets something important in the parking lot of the grocery story.  Devan Sandiford finds the courage to talk to his mother about the family's past. Podcast # 735 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:52.9

This is The Moth Radio Hour, and I'm Catherine Burns.

1:00.2

I'm usually a problem solver, someone who isn't afraid to jump in and talk something through until I figure it out.

1:05.8

But occasionally, I find myself overcome by a vague angst that permeates everything.

1:10.0

And I'm afraid to look at things too closely out of fear of what I'll uncover.

1:16.5

Moth storyteller and beloved meditation instructor Sharon Salzberg says that fear and worry make it impossible to see our situations clearly. Without clarity, answers are hard to come by.

1:23.0

If we want to fix things, we have to deal with our fears because they keep us from seeing the solutions.

1:28.4

So this week, we're going to hear from storytellers who were afraid to look, but somehow

1:33.0

managed to muster the courage to peek through their fingers and try to find their way through.

1:39.6

First, we're going to hear from the writer Amanda Stern.

1:43.3

Amanda's story was recorded live at St. Anne's Church in Brooklyn Heights.

1:47.3

This was during the pandemic, so we had a very tiny audience made up mostly of our masked and socially distant staff and crew.

1:54.6

I just want to mention that in this story, there is some discussion of thoughts of suicide.

2:00.0

Here's Amanda Stern live at the mom.

2:08.5

Since I was a child, I've been held captive by this nameless, invisible dread.

2:17.3

The feeling was so all-encompassing. It made routine things like

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