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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Afghanistan’s Power Vacuum

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2021

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

On Friday, in the midst of the effort to evacuate thousands of people from Kabul, two suicide bombers attacked the Kabul airport, killing about 160 people. A jihadi group ISIS Khorasan, or ISIS-K, claimed responsibility. Who are these extremists? And how do they impact the Taliban’s plans to govern after the U.S. completely pulls out of Afghanistan? 


Guest: Colin Clarke, a Senior Research Fellow at the Soufan Center and the author of After the Caliphate: The Islamic State & the Future Terrorist Diaspora.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

We've got breaking news for you from Afghanistan, where there are significant casualties,

0:10.0

including some Americans from a suicide attack outside the country's main airport in Kabul.

0:16.0

Last Thursday, an attack at Afghanistan's Hamid Karzai airport in Kabul killed 13 American

0:23.4

service members and scores of Afghan civilians.

0:27.1

It was terrible and shocking.

0:30.3

But for people who were closely following the on-the-ground situation in Afghanistan,

0:35.1

the question in the days leading up to the attack wasn't whether

0:38.7

something like this would happen, but just when and how. What made you so sure that this

0:45.1

attack was coming? I don't know, maybe gut instinct, having studied this for two decades.

0:53.5

Colin Clark is the director of policy and research at the Sufong Group, an intelligence and

0:58.9

security consulting firm.

1:00.9

He spent his career observing the behavior of terrorist networks, understanding the players,

1:06.7

and trying to anticipate what they'll do next.

1:09.9

A colleague and friend of mine and Charlie Winter, who's a researcher,

1:13.3

had tweeted out, I think, maybe the morning of Wednesday morning,

1:19.3

when the initial warnings were offered,

1:22.6

that ISIS Corrason Province had gone quiet for about 11 days after, you know, a pretty high operational tempo.

1:32.5

And they completely dropped off. And he said, this seems odd. And I thought to myself, it sure does, unless you were planning for something quite big.

1:44.5

ISIS Corrason, or ISK, immediately claimed credit for the airport attack.

1:51.0

The group is an Afghan offshoot of the ISIS organization that we're familiar with,

1:55.2

the one that terrorized Iraq and Syria.

1:57.8

And they achieved their objectives.

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