Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Monday, October 4th. I'm Naila Boudou. Here's

what you need to know today. The Supreme Court takes up some of our nation's biggest

issues, plus Mike Allen on the Pandora papers. But first, today's one big thing. Afghanistan's

ambassador to the U.S. speaks out.

Do you think Afghans will ever trust an American president again?

Not soon, probably. I'm sorry to say that. I don't think so.

That was Axios' Jonathan Swan speaking to Afghanistan's ambassador to the United States,

Adela Abraz, for the latest episode of Axios on HBO. It was her first TV interview since

the fall of Kabul, and Jonathan Swan is here to tell us how her story might reflect

Afghanistan's story right now. Jonathan, thanks for being with me.

Thanks for having me.

Jonathan, Afghanistan's ambassador to the U.S. Adela Abraz is still working in DC, and

I wanted to start by asking you, does she still consider herself the ambassador to the

U.S. and is she?

Yeah, she does consider herself the ambassador, and it's the most extraordinary situation.

Basically, she's stateless. She has kept the embassy open, the Afghanistan embassy. Obviously,

she has no leader that she reports to, because Afghanistan's president, Ashraf Ghani, fled

the country in secret. And the Biden administration is declining to meet with her. She's someone

who's spent her whole adult life fighting for the rights of Afghan women and girls, and

she's basically in the last month watched her life's work go up in flames.

What was her response to President Biden saying that the U.S. still wants to advocate for

the rights of women and girls there?

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