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AFGHANISTAN PROVIDES KABUL A DEFENSE IN DEPTH FOR THE GUNFIGHT: 8/8: Kabul: The Untold Story of Biden’s Fiasco and the American Warriors Who Fought to the End Hardcover – by Jerry Dunleavy (Author), James Hasson (Author)

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🗓️ 11 May 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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AFGHANISTAN PROVIDES KABUL A DEFENSE IN DEPTH FOR THE GUNFIGHT:  8/8:  Kabul: The Untold Story of Biden’s Fiasco and the American Warriors Who Fought to the End Hardcover – by  Jerry Dunleavy  (Author), James Hasson  (Author)

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https://www.amazon.com/Kabul-Untold-Bidens-American-Warriors/dp/1546005307/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1701296521&sr=1-1

America’s chaotic retreat from Afghanistan in 2021 was nothing short of a horror show. Women and children were trampled to death outside the gates of the Kabul airfield. Desperate Afghans fell from the landing gear of departing planes. Taliban fighters mercilessly whipped and humiliated U.S. civilians trying to access the few square miles still controlled by American forces. Countless Afghan interpreters were abandoned to the mercy of the Taliban after risking their lives alongside American troops for years. And thirteen U.S. service members—eleven of whom were still in preschool on 9/11—were murdered in an ISIS suicide bombing that could easily have been prevented.

Still, the full story is worse than anyone imagined. Drawing from hundreds of hours of first-person interviews, investigative reporter Jerry Dunleavy and former Army Captain and Afghanistan veteran James Hasson provide an exclusive, no-holds-barred account of the disastrous events of August 2021. Kabul is packed with shocking and infuriating exclusive details about fatal politics and bureaucracy that contributed to the catastrophe. The authors also tell, for the first time, inspiring stories of the bravery and sacrifices exhibited by countless Americans on the ground.

Kabul's original reporting includes eyewitness accounts from servicemembers of all ranks who participated the rescue effort, inside information from senior intelligence officials, interviews with high-ranking members of allied governments, harrowing stories from Americans and Afghan allies willfully abandoned by craven officials in Washington, and exclusive details about veteran-led rescue missions that continue to this day. Chapter after chapter, Kabul depicts American government at its worst and “ordinary” Americans at their best.E

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with the authors, Jerry Dunleavy and James Hassan.

0:04.9

Jerry is now working with the House Foreign Affairs Committee,

0:08.1

and Mr. Hassan is an author, a U.S. Army Ranger graduate,

0:12.2

an army captain, former Army captain, and a receiver of the Bronze Star.

0:16.5

We come to the after effect.

0:19.2

13 Americans lost their lives that day, in the Ghost Company, and many more were wounded.

0:27.3

Many Afghan nationals lost their lives, maybe 170, maybe more.

0:32.7

There were lots of orphan children.

0:34.8

The bomber himself, however, is revelatory because the war goes on,

0:40.2

the war against al-Qaeda, the war against our adversaries, the war against the

0:44.9

Afghanistan people who are in desperate situation today, abandoned by, as far as I can tell,

0:52.6

their former partners now prey to the exploitation of other

0:57.2

nationals, that would be the PRC, and that would be Pakistan's bad actors, the Pakistani Taliban,

1:04.5

the Afghanistan Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS. And the puzzle here raised by Jerry and James is why the State Department

1:14.7

doesn't want to tell the American people what it knows to be true. Who the bomber was,

1:19.8

his name was Logari, Al-A-Logari, Abdul Rahman Al-A-Gari. Where it came from, what his associations

1:26.4

were, and why this is important to understand,

1:30.6

because al-Qaeda has not left Afghanistan. ISIS has not left Afghanistan. And the U.S.

1:36.6

is conducting what it needs to do to gather information in it, not conveying to the American people.

1:45.1

Jerry, I come to you.

1:46.2

I don't want to be political here.

1:48.1

I want to just understand the use or the explanation of why the American people don't know what's in your book.

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