When we as citizens cannot do very much about what's happening in Afghanistan and are already living a lot of personal stress, you know, I have to ask myself like, why is it worth spending time here and with our people talking about Afghanistan?

We spent 20 years there. The American public has reached a real consensus on its desire to not be there militarily anymore.

And for me, the answer is that Afghanistan has a lot to teach us about how we view the rest of the world.

This is Sarah and Beth, you're listening to Pantsuit Politics, the home of Grace-filled political conversations.

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Pantsuit Politics. We are so happy to be here with you today.

We're going to talk about what we're hearing from all of you, both good and bad.

As the Delta variant continues to dominate across the country, for our main segment, we're going to talk about the fall of Afghanistan

and share some of our recent conversation with Amy McGraft, who did a tour in Afghanistan and recently wrote about her experience and much more in her memoir, Honour Bound.

And as always, we're going to close out the show with what's on our mind outside of politics. Now fun fact, we've actually been closing out the show in a fun new way the past few weeks, but realize we forgot to tell most of you.

The outtakes were such a hit during our infrastructure series that we started to keep them.

So if you listen through all the way to the end of Pantsuit Politics, you're going to start hearing some fun, weird, often involving our children or dogs outtakes. So check it out.

Probably an unfortunately apt segue into talking about COVID-19 in the Delta variant is mentioning that we still have a live show scheduled in Waco, Texas in late September.

Now we had really hoped that we'd all be vaccinated, we get together, it'd be a lot of fun. We wouldn't have to even think about Delta as we gathered for the first and only time as a community in 2021.

Alas, there's a lot of concern around this. We are in constant conversation among ourselves about what the responsible next step is.

We know that many of you have bought tickets, it made travel arrangements of book totals and flights. We really badly want to be in community with you as long as it's safe to do so.

And so as a first step, we have decided to implement a mask requirement for the show. So if you come together with us, you will be asked to wear a mask for the entirety of the experience. And we really appreciate your cooperation with this and we'll keep you updated if anything changes.

Hello there, it is Annie Macmanus here. I have a podcast called Changes where I chat to a wide variety of guests, famous or otherwise, all about the big changes they've been through in their lives.

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It's a well formulated set of procedural rules that determine how people participate and what the outcome will be. It could be tulips and pollen or fish and saigon.

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