Affirm’s Max Levchin: Why ‘Buy Now, Pay Later’ Beats Credit Cards
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The Wall Street Journal
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🗓️ 9 January 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | As much as we all can laugh and mock the, oh gosh, they're financing burritos, |
| 0:09.2 | when you put your credit card down at your favorite burritoria, you are financing that burrito |
| 0:15.0 | too. You may be personally paying it off at the end of the month, but half the country is |
| 0:19.9 | paying interest to their credit card provider. |
| 0:22.8 | That burrito gets right on top of that pile and immediately starts accruing interest. |
| 0:27.4 | The sort of a, oh gosh, a new way to borrow money. |
| 0:29.8 | Let's stick with the old one because it's better is pretty disingenuous. |
| 0:36.1 | This week on bold'm bold names. |
| 0:38.4 | Serial entrepreneur Max Levchen. |
| 0:41.0 | You might know him as one of the co-founders of a company that became PayPal. |
| 0:45.3 | And for the past decade or so, he's been at the company a firm. |
| 0:48.8 | Max started the Buy Now Pay Later company to try to make credit more transparent and therefore less risky. |
| 0:56.5 | From the Wall Street Journal, I'm Tim Higgins. |
| 0:59.1 | And this is Bold Names, where you'll hear from the leaders of the bold name companies featured in the Wall Street Journal. |
| 1:05.8 | Today we ask, what will the future of credit look like? |
| 1:13.3 | Max, thank you for joining us in bold names. |
| 1:15.2 | You have been in the fintech space for most of your adult life. |
| 1:18.5 | You've been heading up a firm since its creation in 2012, really becoming one of the |
| 1:23.8 | darlings in the buy now, pay later space. |
| 1:26.5 | That buy now, pay later, it's not necessarily a new idea, right? |
| 1:29.2 | Installment payments were really made popular in the Great Depression |
| 1:32.7 | and kind of lost a favor as we saw the rise of the credit cards years later. |
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