AEWCH 300: GRANT MORRISON or WHO ARE YOU IN THE MAGICAL APOCALYPSE?!
Against Everyone with Conner Habib
Against Everyone With Conner Habib
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🗓️ 2 September 2025
⏱️ 108 minutes
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Friends, When I started Against Everyone With Conner Habib, there were a few guests I wanted to have on more than just about anyone.
Happy to say, now, on episode 300, one of those central figures to my imagination has arrived for the conversation.
GRANT MORRISON doesn't need much introduction. He's* a rebel artist, spiritual visionary, comic book writer, magician, novelist, and nonfiction writer.
The first time I ever heard of Grant Morrison was here, over twenty years ago. in a talk he gave. And then I met him shortly after (I tell you the story in the intro to the episode). His work, and just his being, has been a guidepost for me since I encountered his work.
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A note on Grant's pronouns: I talked with him after the episode about his preferred pronouns, and he said that the "they/them" pronouns were often used by other people when identifying him, but that he found himself using he/him just as much because both gender expressions seemed to limit what he felt his identity was.
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| 0:00.0 | Friends, I'm so excited to say that this is episode 300 of Against Everyone with Connor Abebe, |
| 0:06.3 | and I'm also excited to say that my guest is the comic book writer, nonfiction writer, novelist, magician, rebel artist, and spiritual visionary, or maybe rebel visionary spiritual artist, Grant Morrison. |
| 0:22.7 | I met Grant over 20 years ago. I'm not sure if he remembers the experience, but I sure do. |
| 0:28.8 | I had just seen him for the first time, heard of this person for the first time when I watched |
| 0:33.6 | these DVDs, these recordings of the disinformation conference. Disinformation was a media |
| 0:38.8 | company started by Richard Metzker. And my favorite talk in that whole thing was Grant Morrison, |
| 0:46.3 | this comic book writer, this weirdo who came on stage and screened and was high and spilling his |
| 0:52.9 | drink and also radiating love, radiating some sort of |
| 0:57.8 | creative freedom. He talked about aliens and Robert Anton Wilson and making art. He talked about |
| 1:05.0 | making sigils. Now, I didn't know what sigils were at the time, although I was really interested |
| 1:10.4 | in spiritual practice and I was also interested in magic. At the time, I didn't know what sigils were at the time, although I was really interested in spiritual practice and I was also interested in magic. |
| 1:14.1 | At the time, I had no idea what they were. |
| 1:15.7 | They weren't popular like they are now. |
| 1:18.5 | Now I think a lot of people know what they are, which is a collection of assembled symbols, letters, and desires all contracted into a single image. |
| 1:32.2 | And that image, when fired properly through different processes, |
| 1:36.7 | although the one Grant recommended was masturbation, |
| 1:40.5 | brings into the world what you want, your desire. It's a magical operating system. |
| 1:49.6 | And I did one. I thought, why not? And the first one I did, the first vigil I ever did, |
| 1:57.0 | was to meet Grant Morrison. He lived in Scotland. He was not anywhere near me in Western |
| 2:05.0 | Massachusetts in the woods. And then suddenly I found out he would be at the Amague Institute |
| 2:11.1 | in New York State in just a month. At a small conference featuring Richard Metzger, the artist Paul Loughley, and someone |
| 2:20.2 | who became a lifelong friend since then, Douglas Rushkoff, amongst many others. So, off I went. |
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