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Against Everyone with Conner Habib

AEWCH 281: PILAR LESKO on MAKING MONEY IN A TURBULENT TIME

Against Everyone with Conner Habib

Against Everyone With Conner Habib

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8679 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2024

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

I talk with money teacher and listener favorite PILAR LESKO about the spiritual realities of making, spending, and gifting money in challenging times.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is against everyone with Connor Habib. Money is a way in which we are all connected,

0:07.0

an expression of the intertwining of humanity. So when we ask ourselves questions about money,

0:15.0

often it brings us into questions about the world, about how each of us as an individual relates to everybody else.

0:24.2

Often this journey from the individual to the all, from the me to the multitude, has a feeling

0:30.8

of walking in infinite loop. Perhaps we start by worrying about ourselves and our ability to make enough money in turbulent times,

0:40.3

and as we continue, we notice that we're coming up with all sorts of justifications for why we should make that money, why we deserve that money.

0:50.3

Then we find ourselves rounding a curve into feelings of guilt since there are so many in the world who are in need.

0:58.3

Why should we ourselves be the ones making money when they can't?

1:03.6

Then we're back in our own needs and wants.

1:06.5

In other words, we're right back where we started.

1:09.7

All of this is exacerbated when world events that

1:13.7

seem intense to us rise up. If time is money, when we live in turbulent times, we will experience

1:21.5

money as turbulence. Having plenty of money is no guarantee that the passage will be any smoother.

1:29.3

Perhaps the challenges will come in different ways or be less immediate and threatening,

1:34.3

but it's impossible to deny that those challenges are there, and they can be frustrating or frightening.

1:41.3

I've had people who have hired me for consultation and guidance talk with me

1:46.4

about their acute awareness that in making large amounts of money, they feel a separation from

1:52.3

others. In these cases, often the only option they feel they have is to unplug from the world,

1:59.5

to use money as an escape hatch from human

2:02.7

connection. That generally leaves people feeling out of touch in a way that sooner or later

2:09.0

becomes intolerable. If they've somehow managed to use their money to block out compassion

2:14.2

and togetherness, they can even end up making the world more divided and

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