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Against Everyone with Conner Habib

AEWCH 235: CJ LEEDE & PAUL TREMBLAY on SEX, VIOLENCE, EVIL, AND WRITING HORROR

Against Everyone with Conner Habib

Against Everyone With Conner Habib

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8679 Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2023

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

In the fourth of my episodes on horror, I talk with new horror star CJ Leede (Maeve Fly) and seasoned master Paul Tremblay (The Cabin at the End of the World, The Beast You Are) about the burdens and pleasures of writing such dark material.

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0:00.0

This poem is called Never Again the Same.

0:03.0

Speaking of sunsets, last night's was shocking.

0:07.0

I mean, sunsets aren't supposed to frighten you, are they?

0:11.0

Well, this one was terrifying.

0:15.0

People were screaming in the streets.

0:18.0

Sure, it was beautiful, but far too beautiful.

0:21.6

It wasn't natural.

0:23.6

One climax followed another and then another until your knees went weak and you couldn't breathe.

0:31.6

The colors were definitely not of this world.

0:35.6

Peaches dripping opium, pandemonium of

0:40.3

tangerines, inferno of irises, plutonian emeralds, all swirling and churning,

0:48.3

swabbing, like it was playing with us, like we were nothing. As if our whole lives were a preparation for this,

0:57.4

this for which nothing could have prepared us and for which we could not have been less prepared.

1:03.2

The mockery of it all stung us bitterly, and when it was finally over, we whimpered and cried and howled.

1:12.7

And then the streetlights came on as always, and we looked into one another's eyes,

1:19.1

ancient caves with still pools, and those little transparent fish who have never seen even one ray of light.

1:31.8

And the calm that returned to us was not even our own.

1:33.3

Hello, friends.

1:34.1

This is against everyone with Connor Abe.

1:36.2

That was the late great poet, also a friend of mine, James Tate.

1:41.4

And I love that poem, never again the same, because it reflects how beautiful being

1:50.4

terrified can be and how terrifying seeing the beautiful can be. This is something that I think

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