Friends, this is really just a massive episode.

This is part three of Against Everyone with Connor Habib 200.

Against Everyone with Connor Habib 200 has been three episodes over three weeks featuring six conversations.

Each conversation has two previous guests of the show in conversation with each other

on a theme, and me.

These are people that I've loved talking to.

Most of them have been on the show more than once in conversation with someone that they

might never talk to without this show bringing them together.

The idea has been a sort of conversational alchemy. What happens when people in different disciplines

speak? What sort of new substance arises? So for instance, what happens when a paranormal

expert talks with a mortician? What happens when a transhumanist critic talks with a radical theologian?

What happens when a horror writer talks with a journalist who's chronicling everyday horrors?

This time, it's mystical podcaster and friend of the show, Duncan Truzzle, in conversation

with occult teacher Lisa Romero.

When you use a substance, you're accessing certain chemical processes which connect to

your bodily organs, which are filled with forces, consciousnesses.

So if you trip via a substance, you end up in a realm which's very deeply related to the

bee nesses that are deeply related to you.

Yeah.

Okay, so that's actually your inner landscape placed outside of you in this experience of

the hallucin.

Now, when you penetrate that realm separated from that, say out of a very meditative path,

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