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Against Everyone with Conner Habib

AEWCH 112: PETER BEBERGAL or OCCULT TECHNOLOGY

Against Everyone with Conner Habib

Against Everyone With Conner Habib

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8679 Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2020

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

I talk with writer and rogue theologian Peter Bebergal about the urgent need to view tech from an occult persopective.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is against everyone with Connor Habib, a weekly podcast featuring my conversations with

0:05.4

countercultural figures and presenting complex, philosophical, spiritual, and political ideas in an

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engaging and accessible way. Friends, I think we can sense the impending challenges of technology as we emerge from these quarantine conditions.

0:25.9

Many books are being written about surveillance capitalism, the problems with Silicon Valley,

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the hyper-tech blind solutions to very human problems. Technology has its own morality embedded in it,

0:44.2

and I don't just mean whether or not we should create new technologies, but technology itself.

0:50.2

And the ways that that filters out into or stems from history and oppression is really worth taking note of.

1:00.0

So to discuss this in the weirdest and most occult way possible, I invited Peter Beavergole onto the show.

1:10.0

Peter is an author most, I guess, pertinently to this

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episode of a book called Strange Frequencies, which is all about how technology intersects

1:21.9

with spirituality, mysticism, occultism, and more. Peter and I talk about all sorts of things. We talk about the fact that

1:30.9

there are no unaltered states of consciousness, so altered state of consciousness is kind of a

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misnomer. We talk about how technology can prohibit human growth in a lot of ways, even as we

1:43.1

think it's helping us advance or progress.

1:46.0

We talk about using magic to hack technology, how Elon Musk is a kind of anti-enchanter who's

1:52.3

deadening the world through the misuse of wonderment, why flipping a coin is a magic act of

1:59.2

occult technology.

2:09.8

And I think all of it really points us in the direction of the potential of seeing technology through a spiritual lens and through spiritual ideas and uses.

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Peter's books all relate towards the intersection of spirituality and art and technology in some

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way or another.

2:26.0

And in fact, he has a new book coming out later this year that's an anthology called Appendix

2:32.2

and the Eldridge Roots of Dungeons and Dragons

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