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Michelle's Topsy Turvy Summer.

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com slash K-E-Y-S. S. recently? Topsy-turvy, good question, you mean a little bit unstable, a little bit strange.

Yes, a little bit upside down, yes, exactly.

Yes, it hasn't. Well, I've been getting up at 6 a.m. for 30 minutes of

meditation and I feel a little topsy turn when I get up because I'm tired you know I

feel tired a little dizzy, and it's just sort of hard to sit down and

meditate at that time of day when you're just coming out of sleep, but I'm trying it.

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