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U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

Advocate Christ Medical Center v. Kennedy

U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

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National, Government & Organizations

4.6640 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

A case in which the Court held that the phrase “entitled…to benefits” includes only those people who are eligible to receive a cash payment during the month of their hospitalization.

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0:00.0

You'll hear argument first this morning in case 23-715 Advocate Christ Medical Center versus Bacera.

0:06.7

Ms. Sherry?

0:08.5

Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, the same words in the same sentence should

0:14.2

have the same meaning. Today, we are talking about the words entitled to benefits in the

0:19.9

dish adjustment.

0:26.8

Just two terms ago in Empire Health, this Court looked at the words entitled to benefits under Medicare Part A and said that it means qualifying for the Medicare Part A program.

0:32.4

Entitled to SSI benefits in the same sentence should mean the same thing, qualifying for the SSI program.

0:39.7

A person qualifies for the SSI program when she applies and is determined eligible,

0:45.8

and that eligibility lasts until it is terminated.

0:49.5

The government disagrees because it says that there's no such thing as an SSI program, and the only

0:55.9

SSI benefit is a monthly cash payment. But Congress created what it called a national program,

1:03.6

and it created a program of income insurance. This is a program where a person who's low

1:09.1

income enough to qualify in the first place is promised a minimum guaranteed income for a calendar year.

1:15.7

And in the months where that income is not needed, the cash payment is suspended, nothing is terminated, and other benefits remain available.

1:24.8

In the end, this is about DISH, and DISH is about ensuring that hospitals

1:29.9

are reimbursed for low-income patients that are less healthy and that are costlier to treat.

1:36.2

And health does not change overnight. The government's interpretation simply does not count

1:41.9

that low-income population. It does not count the low-income population.

1:48.5

It does not count the low-income Medicaid patient coming out of a nursing home.

1:52.5

It does not count the low-income patient waiting for her first check.

1:55.9

And the list of those it does not count goes on and on.

2:03.3

A dish proxy that does not measure the low-income population is no proxy at all.

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