Advice for Pre-Law Advisors (Ep. 559)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.6 • 886 Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary
A college pre-law advisor asks Ben and Nathan how to best prepare undergraduate students for law school. Ben and Nathan encourage them to keep doing what they’re doing and stress the importance of the cost of law school.
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- A viewer asks what score they should aim for
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- A rapid-fire of Pearls v. Turds
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0:00 Advice for a Pre-Law Advisor
12:23 Exit Survey Feedback
25:06 Enroll Now or Reapply
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56:17 Pearls v. Turds Rapid Fire
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| 0:00.0 | So here's your chance to speak to at least one pre-law advisor who's listening. |
| 0:03.7 | How should I approach this new role? |
| 0:05.6 | Have frank conversations with these kids about whether law school is the right path at all. |
| 0:11.0 | Two, please do not give them the impression that the LSAT is hard. |
| 0:14.9 | Last thing I would say, have really frank conversations with them about law school pricing. |
| 0:27.2 | Thank you. really frank conversations with them about law school pricing. Hello and welcome to episode 559 of the Thinking LSAT podcast. |
| 0:32.3 | I'm Ben Olson. |
| 0:33.0 | With me is Nathan Fox. |
| 0:34.5 | We're the co-founders of Elsaid Demon.com and the ElsaDemon Daily podcast. We have an |
| 0:39.0 | email here from Tom, subject, advice for a pre-law advisor. Hi, Ben and Nathan. I'm a professor |
| 0:45.8 | of political science at a liberal arts college that just started a major in legal studies. Starting |
| 0:52.3 | this fall, I'll be teaching an undergraduate course on legal reasoning |
| 0:55.6 | and serving as my college's de facto pre-law advisor. |
| 1:01.3 | My own law school journey ended 16 years ago. |
| 1:04.3 | I was all set to apply with my 172 LSAT and 3.88 GPA |
| 1:09.2 | when a professor clocked that I had no real interest in being a lawyer |
| 1:13.5 | and was just doing what I assume political science majors were supposed to do. |
| 1:18.9 | Thanks to her intervention, I went for my PhD instead and have never regretted it. |
| 1:25.3 | To prepare for pre-law advising, I convinced my college to pay for me to retake the LSAT in June |
| 1:31.3 | so that I could experience the digital no-logic games test. |
| 1:35.3 | I discovered the demon from reading your book, the LSAT is easy, |
| 1:39.3 | and I have been devouring your podcast episodes ever since. |
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