Nature can open up our minds. It allows us to think creatively and let our imaginations

run wild. In the fresh air, we can come up with ideas that change the course of our

lives. That's exactly what happened to David Sacker. When David was 21 years old, he embarked

on a pretty wild adventure. He decided to bike the Pan American Highway from the top of North

America to the bottom of South America. That's 19,000 miles. Along the way, David was confronted

with open landscapes and a lot of time to think. As he peddled through the Andy's mountains,

he was dreaming up his next wild idea. To open vital, a unique 24-hour climbing gym that

runs on trust and community. I'm Shelby Stenger, and this is wild ideas worth living.

David Sacker grew up here in San Diego. Like me, he found surfing at a young age, and it was his

gateway to a world of adventure. He started hiking, biking, and ultimately rock climbing. Outdoor

adventure and an active lifestyle became pillars of his adult life. But unlike a lot of adventure

athletes, David wasn't always a daredevil. David Sacker, welcome to wild ideas worth living.

It's great to be here. Thanks for having me. You have one of the wildest ideas I've heard of,

and a wild idea of yours led to. It sounds like another wild idea that's kind of become your life

with vital climbing gym, which I discovered really during the pandemic. I want to talk all about

vital. But first, I want to go back. Did you grow up outdoorsy? Did your parents tell you could do

whatever you wanted? Yeah, you know, it's funny. When I was a little kid, I was extremely, I guess,

sensitive, you could say. Like, if we go to the beach, I'd be like barely getting my toes in the

water, you know, or the joke was always, I could go in the pool and not get wet because like, so is

that a, you know, a place with a water slide or something. I go down the water slide and just be so

nervous about getting wet. I go really slow, like barely hit the water in the bottom and like,

jump right out again. And that applied to everything. I was, I was pretty like careful with how I

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