This is the Kateri Daily Podcast for Friday, August 13th, 2021. I'm Caleb Brown.

We lament this spending, the seizure of our liberties by an overweening government, but it's endlessly

fascinating, at least to your humble host, how often

libertarians angrily or snarkily fight with one another, over relatively minor

issues, and how little attention is paid to the profound and immediate threats to Liberty faced around the globe.

Wolf von Laire is president of Students for Liberty.

We spoke last month.

I try to talk as much about policy as possible. I try to avoid personality issues as much as possible,

particularly when we're talking about other people who call themselves libertarians.

And yet I feel like and maybe I'm wrong about this that libertarians are more likely

than almost any other group of people with an ideological commitment to really,

let's put this as politely as possible, really poo-poo, the people with whom they disagree on often what seems to be fairly minor stuff in the grand scheme of things.

So as students for liberty it seems to me has been very successful at not playing that game.

Well thank you.

I mean, it sounds like that you have like a new study for Cato right there, don't you?

In order to dig into the data, if that's true or not, it certainly feels like it.

And the more we are busy with infighting and trying to apply litmus tests to one another

the less we can focus on the problems at hand and right now it really looks like

that we are losing the battle of ideas because

by now who is the loudest it's the right that is focusing on triggering the left

and saying how evil and stupid they are and it's the left trying to silence everyone that makes them feel uncomfortable.

And classical liberals, libertarians, don't really have a huge say in this debate and we do truly have to look at us and see and ask us a question like why that is the case.

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