Hey Lutte from Radio Lab here, we are partnering with the International Astronomical Union to give you a chance to name one of Earth's quasi moons.

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Go to Radiolab.org slash Moon to find out more. These days most of us have at least a passing familiarity with the idea of meditation.

Whether it's something you've seen portrayed on with the idea of meditation

whether it's something you've seen portrayed on TV

something you have a casual go at to cap off an occasional yoga practice

or it's an integral part of your daily routine,

the idea of using mindfulness and breath work to cope with physical and mental

stressors has arguably gone pretty mainstream.

For Scientific Americans, science quickly, I'm Rachel

Felman. Speaking personally, I'm by no means an expert at meditation, but I have

used it regularly ever since my martial arts instructor forces me to learn when I was eight. So thanks to

Mr. Vertoli and Grandmaster Yee. But today I'm talking to someone who goes way

deeper in meditation than just doing some square breathing on a gymnasium floor.

Now he's using neuroscience to help fellow researchers and spiritual practitioners alike get a better

understanding of what happens to the brain during these exercises.

Joining us today is Matthew Sequette associate professor and director of the meditation research Program at Harvard Medical School and Mass General Hospital.

I would love to start with hearing just a little bit more about what you mean when you talk about advanced

meditation. How is it different from the sort of mindfulness meditation that our listeners might

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