There are truly a handful of people in the podcast world who have voices and personalities

that are absolutely imprinted on my heart and brain, and maybe I'm way too addicted to

podcasts.

But Phoebe Judge, the host of Criminal, is one person that really comes to mind.

If you've ever listened to Criminal, free plug for that podcast about holy crap, she

is just one of the best voices to listen to.

And another person who is just really unique in their sound and in their delivery that

is in the podcast world is my guest this week.

She hosts one of the most popular parenting podcasts in the world and created a massive

viral challenge to encourage families to spend more time outdoors with their kids.

Several times a week, she interviews different game changers and experts who specialize in

children, parenting, nature, and learning, and I have learned so many new things because

of her podcast.

I've also gotten a lot of book wrecks, and I'll talk about that in a second.

She's a homeschool mom of five.

She lives in Southeast Michigan, and she has really changed the lives of hundreds of thousands

of families with her fun and countercultural initiative to prioritize nature over screens.

And what I was saying, she is the biggest bookworm that I know.

And you know if you follow me, I'm like a massive reader, but she is known for being a reference

in cyclopedia.

I lost count of how many times she named dropped different books in this interview.

So if you are also a huge reader, especially when it comes to the parenting and child development

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