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Hi, you're listening to The New Yorker Poetry Podcast.

I'm Kevin Young, poetry editor of The New Yorker Magazine.

On this program, we invite a poet to select a poem from the New Yorker archive to read and discuss.

Then, they read one of their own poems that's been published in the magazine.

Today, my guest is Adrian Matika. He's the author of seven poetry collections, and the graphic

novel last on his feet. He has been a finalist for the National Book Award and the Pulitzer

Prize, served as the poet laureate of the state of Indiana from 2018 to 2019 and is editor-in-chief

of Poetry Magazine. He lives in Chicago. Adrian, welcome. Thanks for joining me. Oh, it's so good

to see you, Kevin. Thanks for having me out. I'm a big fan of the podcast. Oh, well, thanks.

I'm really excited to hear the first poem you've chosen to read, which is

Against the Encroaching Grays by C.D. Wright. What was it about this particular poem that

attracted you? First of it, it's a beautiful poem, but I'm absolutely fascinated by C.D. Wright as a poet.

I mean, I think when we talk about southern poets, there's a kind of expectation of subject matter or a shape of poem, even though that's not really true. It's just a 20th century idea, you know. But she sort of expanded all of that for me. She was somehow simple and ornate at the same time. I mean, she actually said something like that about herself. She said that she was, she said, I'm plain and sophisticated at the same time. And I thought that was a really interesting way to think of not only about being a poet, but being a person, you know. So when I was going through all the amazing poems, you all have selected over

the past few years, and I saw this one. I want to talk with Kevin about C.D. Wright.

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