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My secret today, I guess, is when I was in college, I was a resident advisor in the dorm for several years, and two of those years, I had my boyfriend living with me in my dorm room for free and managed to do that without anybody ever knowing.

I'm Dan Ham.

And I'm Dahlia Beta.

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And listen to the stories no one ever tells.

You are entering the secret room.

Hey guys, I got a text from Dahlia.

She's in Italy right now, and she said she's busy shopping, she's drinking sparkling water and sipping wine, and she's truffle hunting.

Yeah, treffle hunting.

They do that in Italy.

I'm going to check in with her at the end of the podcast, but lest she be forgotten in the meantime,

first up today is an interview she did with Josh not too long ago. I'm going to jump in at a

couple of points, but you'll hear Dahlia asking the real questions. Hi Josh. What's your secret for

the secret room today? This is going to be a secret about how I stole a year of my brother's life.

I come from a family of five.

I have an older sister and a younger brother,

and we're a family of professors and engineers and lawyers and scientists.

And so...

And so, Josh explains that intellectual pranks abounded in his family.

On one occasion, he collaborated with his parents to fool his younger brother into thinking something extraordinary.

They told him that, you know, after a certain age, humans can fly.

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