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Science of Reading: The Podcast

Adolescent Literacy, Episode 1: Foundational skills for adolescent learners, with Doug Fisher, Ph.D.

Science of Reading: The Podcast

Amplify Education

Education, Science, How To, Social Sciences, Early Literacy, Amplify, Science Of Reading

4.5642 Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In this first episode of our special four-part Science of Reading: The Podcast Adolescent Literacy miniseries, Susan Lambert, Ed.D., speaks with Doug Fisher, Ph.D., a celebrated professor, author, and one of the most influential voices in adolescent literacy. They explore what the evidence really tells us about supporting adolescent learners, and what it means for classroom practice. They also discuss why Doug and his colleagues set out to find a new model for adolescent literacy, how self-ef...

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0:00.0

Hey listeners, it's Susan Lambert. I really hope you'll join me on June 16th and July 14th for our

0:06.8

Summer Learning Academy. But don't just take it from me. Here's Jennifer Pearson, a K-12 English

0:12.9

Language Arts Coordinator from Missouri who attended last year. I think as an educator, we should

0:18.9

always be learning. And when we are away from the work during the summer, it sometimes allows us to be a big picture,

0:27.3

the why behind what we do every day during the school year.

0:32.1

Join me and Jennifer by reserving your spot now for the summer learning academy,

0:39.5

kicking off June 16th at Amplify.com slash summer learning academy.

0:46.0

I think we have to redefine what we mean are foundational for adolescents.

0:51.3

What are the foundational components that are important for adolescent readers?

1:00.1

This is Susan Lambert and welcome to Science of Reading the podcast from Amplify.

1:05.4

Over the past couple years, we've gotten a number of listener questions like this.

1:10.6

I'm a high school English teacher

1:12.1

who has many, many students who read and write far below grade level. Are there any strategies

1:17.5

specifically for secondary students? And questions like this, what's the best program for

1:23.4

helping older readers, fourth grade and above? Well, today I'm excited to kick off a new mini-series devoted specifically to adolescent literacy.

1:33.8

There's a literacy crisis in middle school, too.

1:35.8

Yeah.

1:36.2

High school, too.

1:37.3

And so we have to take this both and approach.

1:40.7

You know, the reality is that of the 75% of the kids that we have that are struggling,

1:45.7

particularly in the upper grades, 90% of them are instructional casualties. Like, they were never

1:49.6

really taught to read. Yes, adolescent literacy is enormous. It's multifaceted. There's specialized

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