There's a myth that goes like this. If you want to be a godly woman, you have to be demure,

like a doormat. Mary Cassian disagrees. God loves strong women. He wants his daughters to be strong,

but he wants us to be the right kind of strong. Do we need more strong women? Yes, we do.

Absolutely. But strong in the right kind of strong. Do we need more strong women? Yes, we do. Absolutely. It's strong in the right

kind of way. This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamuth, co-author of True Woman

101 for August 12, 2019. 19.

Well, Dana, we've been here over the last several sessions talking with our longtime friend Mary Cassian.

So I want to say to both of you, welcome.

Hello again.

Good to be here.

I've said you do the best conversations when you're with friends, right? And that's what this has been for me. It's been refreshing. It's been challenging. It's been

encouraging. It's been thought-provoking. And I know that both of you in particular have a burden

for younger, for girls. You both have granddaers. Dana, you're working with the true girl movement and girls eight to 12.

And what kinds of things do you see in the world that they're growing up in that make you concerned about their view of what it means to be a strong woman?

Well, they definitely are being told that they need to be strong.

That is such a huge cultural message for girls in our culture. You have to be strong. You are strong. You are strong just because you're a girl. Where are they getting those messages? Like, they're not reading these books. Well, you know, they're not reading these books, but they're hearing the songs. They're seeing the television programs, they're hearing the overt messages.

But one thing that really breaks my heart, Nancy,

when I see a tween or an elementary-aged girl

with one of these T-shirts on that says,

Girls Rule, Boys, Drul,

or some other type of message that I think not only is that

really a harmful message, but your mom bought that for you.

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