U.S. Navy Admiral William McCraven served for nearly four decades in a highly decorated career,

from Navy SEAL to commander of the Joint Special Operations Command. Since then, he's been a

chancellor of a major university system at the University of Texas, a professor at their

LBJ school, and a best-selling author. And while history holds a place for him as the man behind the high-stakes raid that brought

Osama bin Laden to justice, McRaven is also widely known for his 2014 speech, Make Your

Bed, which went viral.

Many of his speeches are collected in his new book called Duty, Honor, Country, and Life, and he joins us now. Admiral, welcome to the news. That's great to be with you. Thanks for being here. I do want to lean into your expertise while we have you and ask you about this ongoing war in Iran because we've heard President Trump predict the war would be over soon, a matter of days, a matter of weeks. Just yesterday, he said, don't rush me when he was asked about a timeline.

How long do you think this war is going to continue?

Right now, I think it depends on how long we want to continue to enforce the blockade.

The problem we have right now is the Iranians don't really want to come to the negotiating table until we lift the blockade.

Conversely, President Trump doesn't want to lift the blockade because that's really his leverage. So somebody's going to have to blank.

Now, they are talking about the foreign minister coming to Pakistan to meet with Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner,

and so maybe there will be some progress there.

But at the end of the day, the president has to get to a point, what I think is a strategic point, where the straits are open back in, and he somehow gets the Iranians to agree not to enrich the Iranian beyond a certain point.

That's only going to happen.

But I think if at some point in time we lift the blockade.

Now, you can lift the blockade for the ceasefire and then flip a switch and turn it right back on if the Iranians don't comply. I mean, this does have some hallmarks of what I'd call cautionary tales of the past, right? We have no really clear goal shifting timelines. Do you worry this is going to just turn into another prolonged conflict? Yeah, I don't think it'll be terribly prolonged, but it's certainly going to go on for another couple weeks and maybe a month or so. Again, this is because we are at this impasse, and I know what will happen at the negotiations, we will say these are the things we want done, and the Iranians will say, no, we don't agree to that. If you look at the JCPOA, it took 18 months to negotiate the JCPOA, the nuclear plan under

the Obama administration, and that was people that were professional negotiators.

So this idea that somehow with a couple of meetings between a representative from Iran and a couple of representatives from the U.S. that somehow we're going to magically kind of come to an agreement. I hope so. I mean, I hope that plays out. I hope they open the straits back up. I hope the Iranians kind of settle down a little bit. But hope is not a strategy. So, again, I think the president can use the blockade as a little bit of leverage to

get what he needs. I want to ask you about this book and the title specifically, because it comes

from a quote from General MacArthur, the duty, honor, and country part. You added the word

life, though. Tell me about that. Why? Well, in MacArthur's 1962 speech to West Point,

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