one of the biggest issues here is that people don't know that it's happening.

It's one of those things that like once you know that it's happening, you can't stop seeing it. Like I've got friends and family now who send me articles every day or every week. Oh, I just saw this about forever chemicals. I just saw that. But if you don't know to look for it, a lot of the time people, you know, just see an article in their eyes glaze over and they don't understand it.

And so I think just having conversations with people in your life about this problem and educating them because I think that education is one of the big issues.

Because I think for a lot of people, for this issue, were a lot of other environmental issues.

If they understood the degree of the pollution, they might say, hey, I don't like that. And there might be a push for

change, but I think part of the issue is information and that people really just have no idea

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invisible but urgent threat that we each face, one that's coursing through the blood of nearly

every American. My guest today is Rachel Frazen, Energy and Environment Reporter at the Hill

and author of the new book, Poisoning the Well,

How Forever Chemicals Contaminated America. Her reporting uncovers the dark story of PFS, the so-called

forever chemicals, hidden in everyday products, drinking water, and even our bodies.

We'll talk about what PFS are, how widespread they become, the human cost,

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