Adam Phillips: On Tantrums
The LRB Podcast
London Review of Books
4.4 • 582 Ratings
🗓️ 7 March 2013
⏱️ 16 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | No one ever recovers from the sadomasochism of their childhood. |
| 0:04.8 | We may not want to think of the relations between parents and children as power relations. |
| 0:10.1 | Indeed, it may sound like a perversion of parenting to do so, |
| 0:13.7 | and we don't want to think of parents and children being in any way sexually gratified |
| 0:17.5 | by their status in relation to each other. |
| 0:20.4 | But, to put it as cutely as possible, |
| 0:22.8 | feeling big always depends on someone else being made to feel small. When your child zooms around the |
| 0:28.3 | house saying he's a superhero, you can either remind him that he's actually a little boy, |
| 0:32.6 | or you can indicate one way or another that you're impressed. When your child falls over, you can get crossed with her |
| 0:38.5 | for not looking at where she's going, or you can comfort her in an affectionate way. These aren't |
| 0:44.8 | pictures of the bad and good parents so much as responses or states of mind that every parent is |
| 0:49.9 | capable of. In identifying with the child, in imagining his strength and vulnerability, we join him in something. |
| 0:57.0 | In disidentifying, we separate him out. If you feel for your child when she falls over, you feel it in your body. |
| 1:04.0 | If you scold her, you're exempt. One is the sadomasochistic solution, the pleasure, the excitement is in correcting the child, and one is not. |
| 1:13.7 | One response assumes a likeness between you and the child, the other asserts a difference, an innate superiority. |
| 1:21.4 | One has to do with solidarity, the other is punishing. |
| 1:25.0 | It's the difference between wanting to be right, wanting to win an argument, |
| 1:28.9 | and wanting to be kind. Or the difference between two types of authority. One is in essence |
| 1:36.1 | humiliating and breeds resentment, one is reassuring and makes a bond. Is there a solution then a way to |
| 1:43.4 | stop people wanting to humiliate each other? |
| 1:47.6 | We know that some people's psychic survival, everybody's psychic survival some of the time, |
| 1:52.9 | depends on their capacity to humiliate others, to make others experience what they have suffered, |
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