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Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and manipulation from two hackers who

have actually experienced it. I am Lola Blanc and I am Megan Elizabeth. And today, our guest is

Adam Levin, host of What the Hack. And he is here to talk to us about all things internet

scams. We're going to talk about fishing, the scams we've each experienced, and in my case,

and the heartbreaking romance scams that target the elderly. We'll also discuss social engineering,

who scammers are, and what happens when they get caught, plus a bunch of tips for how to protect

your identity online. Adam Levin, not to be confused with Adam Levine or another guy named Adam

Levin, who I guess Jack has gotten into reading, he's an author. This is, wow, this is the cyber security

Adam Levin in case anyone was confused and thought this singer room five was on our podcast.

No, he is not. That Adam is a different one.

Great, thankfully.

So Megan, tell me your goal, do you think?

Okay, this one's pretty wild. This takes place in Colombia. Dozens of teenage girls have had to be

taken to the hospital because they've been playing the Ouija board. So two girls started playing

the Ouija board. They got really sick and then it became kind of an epidemic of people playing

the Ouija boards and having to go to the hospital.

So many things to say. I have so many things, but I'm not going to say them all. I'm just going to say

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