we have to demand better of people. Look, all politicians are is a reflection of what is demanded by people, right?

If we demanded politicians to, you know, literally work with one arm tied behind their back and jump five times every morning,

we would have people that would do that if that was the requirement, because ultimately they come up and reflect what they need to do to get elected.

Welcome to the Good Faith podcast. I'm your host, Curtis Chang, and the Good Faith podcast is where friends who follow Jesus

help each other make sense of the world.

And if you've been a friend of the podcast for a while following our recent episodes,

you've known that we've taken a break from following the national

political world. And we've done that for a good spiritual reason and a practical reason. The spiritual

reason is that the political world, especially at the national level, can be so consuming,

so agitating that, you know, if we pay only too much attention to it,

it can distract us from parts of our lives that we actually have more agency.

It's important to us, our marriages, our parenting, our relationship to technology,

to our church, and so forth.

So I wanted to spend some time on these other parts of our world. But there was also

a practical reason, which was that as I was talking to friends like David French, who's a

regular on this podcast, we were both talking like, which version of Trump were we going to get?

Were we going to get the maximally bad version of Trump that would really trample over and violate

what is sort of remaining goods in our political system? Or would we get something of a more

less bad, still bad, but like less bad version of Trump, that could somehow be restrained

either by the system, by his own party, maybe even by his better angels.

Well, a few weeks into the Trump administration, at least for myself, I have the answer

to the question, we're getting the maximally bad version of Trump in terms of his policies,

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