All right. Welcome to the Rojas Report. I am here with Adam Kehoe and no relation to Donald Kehoe.

I've been working with, you know, writing about Donald Kehoe for so many years that I misspelt your name in a few places.

So I apologize for that. I appreciate that. That's an increasingly common question in my life right now.

No about Donald Kehoe, I bet. We're no relation. Different spelling, a fairly common I

or surname, but no, we're no relation. Please this far as I. Yeah, I did have a few people

asking when I did post this. But of course, you have your PhD in information science.

As you've got on, I kind of stole your Twitter bio there.

You have an interest in AI data science and defense policy issues, the latter of which I

think has probably been your inspiration for getting involved with all of the

interesting policy issues that arise when they begin to ask for UAP reports from

the different intelligence agencies.

But I would like to hear from you yourself, you know, what is it?

When did you first kind of decide to start to look into this and blog about it

sure well I think like a lot of people with an interest in science I mean it's always

been in at least my peripheral vision growing up you know stories of UFOs and things like

that you know I never had a sighting or anything like that myself. And I think like many people around 2017,

the issue really started coming up on my radar, particularly as we got more and more details

about the Nimitz case. So the more I learned about Nimitz, the more it seemed to me that,

you know, there's really four broad categories of explanation.

And so often, you know, people get lost in the debate about what it was, right, what it is,

that we sort of forget to take a step back and think about, well, what are the implications for all of the different alternatives?

What would it, what would be true if it turned out to be, you know, one thing or another?

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