Adam & John "Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power"
The Deconstructionists
John Williamson
4.4 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2025
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
🎙️ Episode Title: John Gets Interviewed: The Story Behind Spoiled Fruit
🎧 Episode Description:
We’re back—and kicking things off with a role reversal. In this special episode of The Deconstructionists, Adam returns to the mic (yes, really!) to interview John about his new investigative podcast Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power, which officially drops Tuesday, May 6th.
After over a year of research, interviews, and late-night editing sessions, Spoiled Fruit is ready to be heard. In this episode, we unpack what it’s all about: the rise and fall of a once-promising church movement, how empire-building corrupted the mission, and what happens when growth is prioritized over accountability.
John shares the personal story behind the project, what inspired it, what he uncovered, and why this podcast matters now more than ever. We also talk about the deep emotional weight of telling these stories—and why some of the full-length interviews from Spoiled Fruit will be released right here on The Deconstructionists feed in the coming weeks.
👀 Adam will be back for more episodes soon—and we promise, the next topic will be a little lighter.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Deconstructionist |
| 0:20.3 | Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast. I know I've been quiet for a little while, just doing re-releases, but no, I did not join a monastery or move off the grid. |
| 0:27.9 | Tempting, though. I've just been buried in a massive project over the past year, a new investigative podcast called Spoiled Fruit, Faith, and Power. In today's episode, it's a little different. I know, |
| 0:40.0 | I was thinking about, like, how do I explain to the deconstructionist audience exactly what it is |
| 0:46.2 | I've been up to? And I thought, hey, I know just the guy to help me out with this. So I called |
| 0:51.4 | Adam, who helped me start this very podcast many, many years ago, |
| 0:55.2 | almost 10, to be exact. And I talked him out of coming out of temporary retirement to interview me. |
| 1:01.3 | So that's right. He's back behind the mic asking the tough questions, mostly because I couldn't |
| 1:06.0 | think of a better way to explain all this to you. And so, and honestly, Adam, since the very beginning has been |
| 1:12.0 | my sounding board through the entire process, kind of helping me work through a lot of content |
| 1:17.5 | and trying to shape it in the right way and tell the story in the right way. And so when it came |
| 1:25.0 | time to break it all down, it only made sense to have him host this one. |
| 1:28.0 | And so, and here's a bonus, by the way. |
| 1:31.4 | Some of the full interviews I recorded for spoiled fruit, of which I have many, I believe |
| 1:36.9 | need to be heard in full. |
| 1:38.5 | And so these conversations are powerful, raw, and often being heard publicly for the first time. And I will |
| 1:46.7 | release them actually right here on the deconstructionist feed in the coming weeks and months. |
| 1:51.6 | They deserve space and they deserve to be heard. And yes, Adam will be back for more episodes |
| 1:56.4 | soon. Hopefully next time on a topic that doesn't require quite as much emotional processing. |
| 2:01.6 | So for those of you who are interested, spoiled fruit, faith, and power officially launches Tuesday, |
| 2:06.6 | May 6th. So whether, you know, you're listening to this, the night before or the day of, |
| 2:12.8 | depends, but it'll be out on May 6th. And yes, new deconstructionist episodes are on the way too. |
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