Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether

you're a grizzled veteran, soldering your own pedalboard jumper cables, or else a scrappy upstart, coding your own boutique streaming service, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

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