Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, your home for Open, Honest, and Provocative Conversations.

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly, welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, today on the program, Adam Grant.

He is a professor at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.

He's an organizational psychologist, an organizational psychologist, and a best-selling author.

And his most recent book is called Think Again, which you'll love.

And I highly recommend you read. He also wrote originals.

He's just a very thoughtful guy who will help you be a thoughtful person.

And we just wrapped, I guess, a 90-minute interview, I guess, that was like, so good.

In so many different ways, we laughed and we got into it.

And we talked about science versus politics and personality and how to argue and how not to argue, how to win, how not to win arguments.

We talked about what's happening in college classrooms now and the parameters for debate about difficult issues like diversity.

And then he asked me a question, what have you changed your thinking on in the past couple of years?

And we had a really good discussion on race and systemic racism.

We don't come at it from the same point.

But it was respectful and it was good.

And he gave me a lot to think about. And I think I gave him a lot to think about.

And I loved the whole thing.

And I think you're going to enjoy listening to this. And I think you'll learn.

You may learn to think again the way he's encouraged everyone to do.

So you'll love him. He's a great guy. He's a non-partisan guy.

I think, well, I'll just let you listen to how it unfolded, but a fair broker.

And someone whose voice should be amplified, I think, is much as possible.

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