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Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmest

Adam and Liz Gotauco Discuss Fairy Tales

Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmest

Pinna

Stories For Kids, Kids & Family

4.55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Adam sits down to discuss all-things fairy tales with fellow aficionado, author, and librarian Liz Gotauco (@cosbrarian)! Want more Grimm now? Listen to this show—and many more—ad-free on the Pinna app! Use code GRIMM at pinna.fm for a special discount.

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0:00.0

PINNA

0:02.0

Hey everyone, it's Adam Gidwitz from Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmist.

0:08.0

On Sunday, October 26, I'm going to be doing a special ticketed event live in Brooklyn.

0:14.0

I'll be telling two Grimm fairy tales, and we're going to invite kids to wear costumes.

0:19.0

You can even get VIP tickets for an extra special meet and greet and Halloween costume showcase before the stories.

0:26.2

Tickets are on sale at tiny URL.com backslash A Very Grim Story.

0:32.1

That's tiny URL.com backslash a very G-R-I-M-M story.

0:39.0

I'll see you there.

0:43.7

Pinna.

0:48.7

Grim, grimmer, Grimmis.

1:00.6

Welcome to a very special episode of Grim, Grimmer, Grimmist, where I'm going to be talking to

1:08.3

somebody I have admired for a while while and a new friend of mine,

1:12.5

Liz Gautauco, who is a children's librarian and also an author, and she does what I do,

1:20.1

which is she tells crazy messed up fairy tales. She does it for grownups, and I do it for kids and for

1:27.4

grownups. But for grownups out there and only grownups, and I do it for kids and for grownups.

1:28.4

But for grownups out there and only grownups, she has a great new book of these crazy fairy tales.

1:33.9

You should totally go look it up.

1:35.3

Liz Gatako is her name.

1:37.3

And also has a really fun social media feed, social media presence that's at Cosbarian, where she tells these hilarious fairy tales, but very much for grownups. But I know she can talk to kids because, Liz, you are also a children's librarian. Is that right? I am. I've been a children's librarian for about 15 years, and it's the best job ever. It is amazing when your book got sent to me in the mail by your very savvy publisher who was like,

2:01.8

I think you would like this. And I was like, oh my gosh, I had a sister and I didn't know I had a sister. So it's exciting to be to be talking to you right now. It's very true. And during the process of writing my own book, at one point, Tom was like, do you know a tail dark and grim? And I was like, do I know a tail dark and grim?

2:17.8

I'm a children's librarian who loves weird fairy tales.

2:20.5

What do you know a tail dark and grim? I was like, do I know a tail dark and grim?

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