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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Actor Jon Bernthal: Leading Man

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture, Film Interviews, Tv & Film

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re joined by actor Jon Bernthal! To begin, we discuss his latest performance on HBO’s We Own This City (6:00), policing and gun culture in America (9:15), growing up grappling with toxic masculinity (14:47), his pivot to acting in college (23:30), and the powerful history of theater in Moscow (27:25). 


On the back-half, he reflects on his first year in Los Angeles (32:45), the night that changed his life (37:44), and the magic behind the making of Martin Scorsese’s The Wolf of Wall Street (45:05). To close, Jon shares his hopes for the future (51:00) and how, as a father, he’s processed these tragic weeks in America (52:58).

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0:00.0

Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm Sam for actor John Bernthal. For the past decade Bernthal has been making a name for himself in films like Wolf of Wall Street, Fury, Baby Driver, Ford v Ferrari, and King Richard.

0:57.0

For a while there, he seemed destined to become one of those reliably good character actors, you know the type, the ones you

1:04.8

instantly recognize and think, oh okay we're in good hands here. But in the past

1:10.5

few years Bernthal has officially made the leap to leading man.

1:15.3

First, with the Punisher series, playing Frank Castle, and now, in 2022,

1:21.4

with We Own This City, created by David Simon and George Pelicanos.

1:26.8

As you may remember, they produced the wire in the early aunts.

1:30.9

Now, 20 years later, they've returned to Baltimore, this time to focus on the city's

1:37.2

notoriously corrupt gun task force. The ringleader of this lawless police squad is a man named Sergeant Wayne Jenkins played by Bernthal.

1:48.0

Here's a clip from the trailer of We Own This City, now available on HBO Max.

1:53.4

And we want to run a little hypothetical by you.

1:56.2

Said we're on an investigation, a farm big time drug dealer, a real fucking monster, right?

2:01.2

We, uh, you know, we get win on. a real fucking monster, right?

2:06.0

We, you know, we get in on where he's keeping his cash.

2:11.0

And we actually come upon that cash.

2:14.0

It's right there in front of us. You just, you know, we take it.

2:19.0

What would you think about that?

2:22.0

Everything changed when they came up with that expression, the war on drugs.

2:27.0

Where the war comes police militarization, the complete gutting of the Fourth Amendment.

2:32.0

They put me in a unit made up of a bunch of the Fourth Amendment. They put me in a unit made of a bunch of the biggest crooks

2:35.0

and the whole goddamn department.

2:37.0

There's all this money to be made,

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