Actor Ebon Moss-Bachrach Returns to ‘The Bear’

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🗓️ 6 July 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

To celebrate the fourth season of The Bear, we return to our conversation with Emmy-winning actor Ebon Moss-Bachrach.

At the top, we dive into the making of the hit series (9:22), his unforgettable collaboration with Jeremy Allen White (11:20), and how Moss-Bachrach manages to keep adding layers to his portrayal of Cousin Richie (14:26). Then, he describes the mounting pressures around this new season (19:23), the day he knew he wanted to be an actor (27:35), and his work through the years with actor Jon Bernthal (30:26).

On the back-half, Ebon reflects on a formative role as a jazz musician in Warren Leight’s play Side Man (35:34), his ideas about success and living a more balanced life (38:19), his experience playing Desi in Girls (43:33), a philosophy depicted in The Bear (47:35), and the art he hopes to continue making in years to come (50:38).

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0:00.0	Lemonada
0:02.0	Lemonada
0:04.0	This is Talk Easy. I'm Stan Forgo, so welcome to the show.
0:42.5	Today, my talk with actor, Evan Moss Bacharach.
0:50.2	Before he was an Emmy winner, Evan was bouncing around film, television, and New York theater for the better part of two decades.
0:54.4	Most notably, in shows like Punisher, The Dropout, and Girls, where he played Marnie's pill-popping guitar-playing boyfriend, Desi.
0:58.8	Many critics have hailed his, quote, natural screen presence,
1:02.9	a ferocity that makes it impossible to look away,
1:06.4	which I think is a fair assessment,
1:09.6	but it's not exactly the first thing that comes to mind for me,
1:13.4	which is that Eben has this thing.
1:15.7	He can be heartbreaking in one moment and then deeply, deeply abrasive in the next.
1:21.9	He pivots on a dime.
1:24.0	It's like someone who's hugging you in one moment and then decides for no reason whatsoever,
1:29.3	or a reason only understood to them, to give you a gut punch, which is exactly how I would
1:35.1	describe his performance as Richie Geremovich in the hit show The Bear.
1:40.4	The show's latest installment, which premiered on June 25th, follows Karmie, Sydney, and the rest of the team pushing forward in the fine dining industry, determined not only to survive, but to take the bear to the next level.
1:53.9	Here's a clip from season four of the bear.
1:58.8	The clock is telling you how much money we have left.
2:01.6	When that shows zero, this restaurant needs to cease operations.
2:05.6	Okay, bonjourno tuti.
2:08.6	It's hard and it's brutal and that's what makes it special.
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