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🗓️ 5 August 2020
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Sofie talks to Emily Gorcenski about Charlottesville, complicity, activism, studying/tracking modern white supremacy based hate movements, privilege, standing up to bullies, transitioning, First Vigil, and having a live feed portrayed on American Horror Story.
Content warning – coronavirus, Nazis, white supremacy, racism, violence, violence, pepper spray, hate speech, prison, alt right, Trump, swatting, police violence, murder, transphobia, homophobia, misogyny, bullying, therapy, fatphobia, terrorism, doxxing, mass shootings
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Produced by Dave Pickering
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0:00.0 | It wasn't about silencing an opinion. |
0:02.6 | We found the opinion. |
0:03.8 | We looked at it and realized that the opinion was violence, |
0:07.0 | that the opinion was an attempt to get people killed. |
0:11.2 | And that goes beyond the domain of free speech and into the domain of, okay, we have to defend against that. |
0:17.0 | You are listening to Made of Human also known as the whole part, a podcast hosted by Sophie Hagen, who is a Danish comedian. Mo-P-P-P-P-P-P-O-P-P-P-O-P-P-P-O-P-P-O-P-P-I-P-P-I'm find out how to do life. |
0:34.0 | But it turns out nobody knows |
0:39.0 | maupau. |
0:41.0 | no pau. |
0:42.0 | Oh, I am so excited about today's episode in so many ways for so many reasons. |
0:51.0 | First of all, we've got Emily Gosensky as a guest. We a Nazi hunter. A Nazi hunter. I mean that's not her words words that's something that I found myself saying a few times and I just it sounds |
1:09.1 | It's what she does in a way anyway you'll hear her say talk about it I feel myself being a |
1:15.0 | tiny bit nervous recording this because at one point she said that there were |
1:19.5 | many people listening to everything she did, like high up in organizations and stuff. So now I feel like |
1:26.9 | maybe the Nazis will judge me for how I deliver this intro and outro. Anyways, screw it. I am just so excited we have |
1:36.8 | Emily Gosenski on. There's such a disconnect in my head between how cool and important and exciting and |
1:51.2 | fascinating and essential she is. exciting and |
1:55.0 | like the life, like she's in, she had to leave the states to move to |
1:59.0 | she had to leave the states to move to Europe because her life was in danger because she's been |
2:04.9 | outing and duxing and tracking down Nazis and |
2:10.3 | so there's a disconnect between that and then just how incredibly calm and sweet and I don't know if she's shy or just down to earth or I don't know I mean I I'm still a bit blown away I'm recording this only a few hours after I've had the conversation with her and I'm so excited also because this |
2:34.1 | conversation I never thought it would actually happen the first time we set it up the |
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