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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Activist Brittany Packnett Cunningham: How Did We Get Here?

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Higher Ground

Tv & Film, Film Interviews, Society & Culture

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

This week one year ago, a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol seeking to overturn the 2020 presidential election. For some perspective on the other side of this moment, we return to our episode with activist and educator Brittany Packnett Cunningham.


We unpack the aftermath of the riots (6:46) before discussing her entry point into activism (11:00), unlearning perfectionism (19:38), grappling with imperfect allies (27:24), the consequences of using your voice (30:45), the enduring legacy of Toni Morrison (41:23), taking action under a Biden-Harris administration (46:03), rejecting objectification online (51:18), and, finally, how she keeps going (53:10).

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Frigo, so welcome to the show. Today we're revisiting our conversation with writer and activist Brittany Pachnet Cunningham.

0:44.7

She's the host of the podcast Undistracted, she's also an MS NBC analyst, and a former

0:51.6

member of both President Obama's 21st century policing task force

0:55.8

and the Ferguson Commission. It was there in Ferguson Missouri that you may have

1:01.4

first learned of Brittany's work. In the aftermath of the

1:05.0

unjust killing of Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson, Brittany

1:10.3

became a leading voice in the Black Lives Matter movement.

1:14.1

We sat down last year about a month after the insurrection.

1:18.4

She actually lives four or five blocks away from the capital and remembers the day in painstaking detail.

1:25.0

Now I wanted to replay this talk with Brittany not only because of the one-year anniversary of that fateful day,

1:33.2

but because she offers something that I feel is missing right now.

1:37.4

Perspective.

1:38.9

I don't know about you, but everyone in my life right now

1:41.8

is anxious, angry, under slept, and overworked.

1:47.0

People want life to return to the way it was. They want schools to reopen safely.

1:52.1

They want the unvaccinated to get vaccinated.

1:55.1

They want to stop spending so much time on their phones and on the internet, but can't seem

1:59.7

to quit either, especially as human contact becomes increasingly fraught.

2:06.0

If you're listening and feel the same, you're not alone.

2:09.9

I feel it too, and not just because I'm recording this intro inside a small closet in my apartment,

2:16.9

although that's not helping.

2:19.1

But perspective, which I think Brittany offers in this talk, is what gets us out of bed.

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