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The Intelligence from The Economist

Action pact: NATO’s Ukraine role

The Intelligence from The Economist

The Economist

News, Global News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Our correspondent speaks with Jens Stoltenberg, NATO’s secretary-general, who says the alliance’s involvement in de-escalating Russia tensions is a sign of its resurgent relevance. After tortuous votes, Italy’s lawmakers elected a president: the incumbent who did not want the job. No posts have changed, but the political balance surely has. And we meet the nuns racking up followers on TikTok. For full access to print, digital and audio editions of The Economist, subscribe here www.economist.com/intelligenceoffer

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Intelligence from the Economist. I'm your host, Jason Palmer.

0:08.5

Every weekday we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

0:17.8

Last week we told you about Italy's presidential election when it seemed the probable winner

0:21.9

would be Mario Draghi, the Prime Minister. But the incumbent was reelected, Mr. Draghi

0:27.1

State put, and somehow the political scene changed anyway.

0:32.6

And here are two ideas you wouldn't naturally put together. TikTok and NUNS. Our correspondent

0:39.3

meets with the sisters of a convent dedicated to spreading the word across all media. Turns

0:44.5

out some of TikTok's most creative content is second to NUNS.

0:55.9

In a press conference with Hungary's President Viktor Orbán yesterday, Russia's president

1:07.1

Vladimir Putin gave his first public remarks on Ukraine since December. He blamed America

1:13.0

for using Ukraine as a pawn to stop the spread of Russian influence. And he warned that

1:17.6

Russia's concerns about the expansion of NATO were being ignored.

1:42.1

In response, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said America was open to continue

1:46.4

to dialogue with Russia about Ukraine.

1:48.4

Well, here's our view. We don't know what President Putin is going to do. And it is our

1:54.2

responsibility to – and it's an imperative to keep the door to diplomacy open. That does

2:02.4

not mean that we are going to not stand by our own values, which includes our belief

2:10.0

that – and the belief of NATO countries that it should be up to NATO members to determine

2:16.6

who is able to join NATO, and that the door to that should be open.

2:21.4

For now, as at least 100,000 Russian troops crowd at Ukraine's borders, those doors to

2:26.6

diplomacy are open. Yesterday, Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson was in Kiev, speaking

2:32.1

with Ukraine's leader Vladimir Zelensky. Russia's and America's foreign ministers spoke on

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