ACLU v. Trump’s Immigration Agenda (with Cecillia Wang)

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🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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On this week’s Insider episode, Joyce Vance is joined by ACLU National Legal Director Cecillia Wang, while Preet is out for his son’s college graduation. In an excerpt from the episode, Cecillia discusses the organization’s lawsuit challenging Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members. In the full conversation, Cecillia details other ongoing ACLU litigation against the Trump administration, including cases challenging President Trump’s birthright citizenship executive order and Trump’s revocation of temporary protected status for Venezuelan immigrants. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. Preet is out this week, so I'm joined by a very special guest.
0:08.2	Cecilia Wong, the National Legal Director of the ACLU, joins us for a new episode of The Insider
0:14.4	Podcast. We discussed Cecilia's important work at the ACLU, including the many critical
0:20.6	immigration cases the ACLU is currently litigating.
0:24.5	If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.
0:33.2	Stay tuned, listeners. Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.
0:38.0	Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.
0:44.0	We're living in unreasonable times.
0:46.7	Join our community of reasonable minds.
0:49.3	Head to cafe.com slash insider or staytuned.substack.com.
0:56.3	And now, on to the show.
1:08.3	You're talking about fighting this, this fight to prevent the Alien Enemies Act deportations in a number of different jurisdictions, right? You're down in Texas, in multiple
1:11.3	jurisdictions. There's a case in Colorado. There's a case in New York. How come you couldn't just
1:15.6	bring one case in one federal jurisdiction and get a nationwide stay? Can you remind us how we got
1:24.2	to where we are? Sure. This is a great question, actually.
1:28.3	This goes back to a different case in our Alien Enemies Act docket that reached the Supreme
1:35.4	Court earlier.
1:36.4	So when we first heard that the president had made a proclamation declaring that this Venezuelan gang was invading the United States as a preliminary, you know, as a prelude to invoking the AEA.
1:55.3	We heard about this before he ever published that proclamation.
2:00.1	And we rushed into the federal court in Washington, D.C.
2:05.6	And on a Saturday, I believe it was March 15th, we got a temporary restraining order from the district judge in Washington, D.C., basically granting the temporary restraining order that we requested, and then extending it in order to basically freeze the status quo so that the president couldn't rush our clients out of the United States.
2:33.1	And it turns out to this gulag, the Seacot prison in El Salvador.
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