This is AspyCloud.

Hello and welcome to ACFM, the home of the weird left.

My name's Kea Milburn and I'm joined as usual by my very good friend Nadia Idle.

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And my other very good friend, Jeremy Gilbert.

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And today we're talking about the very topical topic of boredom.

Guys, why are we talking about boredom at this moment, a moment in which there seems to be a lot going on and a lot of stimulation, lots going on politically, etc.

Why are we talking about boredom?

Yeah, well, I wanted to talk about it, partly because at the last, the world transformed in Manchester, where Keir and I did an ACFM session.

There was another session that I organised with friends of the show, Tom Williams and

Juliet Jakes, who do the Pro Revolution Soccer podcast,

which in the first episodes of which featured Keir, actually.

So it's all in the family.

We did this session sort of discussing quite broadly,

sort of issues around the politics of culture, of artistic production.

And I found myself saying at one point in the process of the discussion emerging

that I thought one of the demands we needed to make for a sort of socialist politics

that could revive the arts and creative sectors, the right to boredom.

Because I was thinking about how historically I think the experience

of boredism had been a really, had been a sort of creative stimulus for lots of people. And partly

boredism is a historical product of an experience of people having quite high levels of social

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