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ACFM Trip 49: Debt

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🗓️ 26 January 2025

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

The concept of debt is as slippery as it is powerful. In this Trip episode, Keir, Nadia and Jem explain why debt is more like a belief than a calculation, and wonder how to imagine a society without it. From credit cards to dowries, they discuss the reality and fantasy of debt, with ideas from […]

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome

0:07.0

Hello and welcome to ACFM, the home of the weird left.

0:23.9

My name's Keir Milburn, and I'm joined by my very good friend Nadia Idle.

0:29.3

Hello.

0:30.4

And my other very good friend, Jeremy Gilbert.

0:33.7

Hello.

0:34.9

And today we're discussing the very seasonal topic of debt.

0:41.1

So guys, why are we talking about debt at this moment?

0:45.0

What's going on?

0:47.5

Well, it's the aftermath of the Christmas season

0:50.2

when traditionally the Western consumer finds themselves to be indebted. It's a huge topic,

0:56.9

like philosophically, anthropologically, economically, sociopolitically. We've just been told

1:04.9

in the past week that the Labour government that came into office promising not to implement any more austerity

1:12.4

might have to implement more austerity. And why? Because the price of government debt has risen

1:18.0

on the bond markets. So the question of what debt is, who experiences it, what its history

1:27.2

is, what we even mean by it. It's a huge, huge topic.

1:30.6

Nadia, what about you? So, yes, I'm interested in all of the global and kind of governmental

1:37.6

sides of debt, and it's kind of reminding me of all of the stuff I studied for my master's

1:42.0

when I was studying 20 years ago.

1:44.8

So all of that stuff is really interesting.

1:47.1

I'm also particularly interested in personal debt and kind of how it influences people.

1:53.5

So like what debt does to us, how it influences our attitudes and behaviors and relationships.

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