This is actually a club. Hello and today almost inevitably we are talking about you foes so Kia this is your fault explain yourself

well this is your fault explain yourself? Well of course you have to talk about UFOs because this is a podcast about the weird left and you're having a moment I also want to talk about it because it was a childhood

interest of mine. You know I grew up in the period when you would be interested in

UFOs and that would be linked to like paranormal. The eupho's, Loch Ness, Monster and Ghost and ESP.

All of that business, yeah.

But I'm also interested in it because I think there's something really interesting in that expansion of

UFOBilly which cross over into that of interest of ours which is the cosmic rights.

I think it's a way into the cosmic right which could be an interesting thing to revisit at this moment.

There is also another reason I think which is perhaps there's a little bit of like escapism and lightness in this topic

and a moment which is pretty heavy in the wider world. Yeah right quite so.

Sonardia why have you even consented to this triviality?

I don't think it's a triviality I I'm just not interested I have to say so I'm here for the ride. I don't think I've ever had an interest in space. I think I said this in the space episode. I just feel like there's too many exciting

slash horrific things happening on Earth that are kind of taking my attention to worry about what's happening

out outer space. But I have recently watched a couple of

documentaries on UFOs and it got me thinking about the relationship between groups of

people having a sort of belief and how that relates to the state and what the state

tries to do about it when a community somewhere says we think this thing is unexplained

and then the how the what the state's interest is in in

reacting to that so that that's one reason why but but mostly I'm here for the

ride for the ride on the spaceship on the absolutely. Let's see if she's a believer by the end of

the show and this deallessness. Yeah let's see. What about you Jeremy? Well like Kia I was really

interested in this as a kid and I agree. I concede the point that

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