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ACFM Trip 39: Protest

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🗓️ 17 December 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Millions have protested against the bombing of Gaza by taking part in marches, boycotts, sit-ins and other demonstrations. But what difference does it make, either to the world or to ourselves? The gang confront a contentious topic in this Trip. Do “A to B” marches ever achieve anything? What about joining hands around an RAF […]

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0:00.0

This is an epic.

0:02.0

This is action. Welcome to ACFM, the home of the weird left. I'm Nadia Eidel and I'm joined as usual by my friends Kia Milburn.

0:28.6

Hello and Jeremy Gilbert. Hello. And today we are talking about protest.

0:36.1

So guys, why are we talking about protest at this moment?

0:40.1

Kia?

0:41.1

Well, I mean, the obvious reason the principal spur to us talking about protest at the moment, it's a

0:46.3

perennial topic, but why are we talking about it now? It's I think the huge protests that have been taking place around the world but particularly in the UK

0:55.7

against the Israeli war on Gaza.

0:59.2

Pro ceasefire protests, you put it that way perhaps, you know, they've been of a size. a 700,000 perhaps, on the largest March in London a few weeks ago to record now, like simply

1:16.1

huge numbers, definitely the biggest protests since the February 15th, 2023, 2003, anti-Iraq war protests.

1:28.0

That's something we need to think about basically.

1:30.0

That's the principle spur for me.

1:32.0

I'd also say there's a huge wave of anti-protest laws and anti-protest rhetoric spreading right across probably across the world

1:41.1

but particularly prevalent in Europe and the UK at the moment and that needs getting into like why is that happening now why is that the thing of the moment?

1:49.0

I think I'm interested in a more general sense as well as thinking about protest as a

1:53.2

concept rather than I mean sometimes when you say protest people use the word

1:58.7

protest and what they mean is like demonstrations in the street and obviously that's only one kind of

2:06.0

protest it's only one physical form of protest and there's a whole set of ideas implied by the idea of protests which might want to be unpacked,

2:15.2

like the question of who are you protesting too? What does it mean to protest rather than to rebel or revolt or ignore or withdraw.

2:26.0

And I think all that stuff is particularly put into relief by a situation like this one, which like the Iraq War demonstration 20 years ago is an example of

2:39.2

people feeling very very strongly very intensely about an issue, which obviously has a real moral dimension to it.

2:46.7

And yet really it's an issue, the nature of which makes it very difficult for ordinary citizens to exercise any real agency around.

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