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Lauren, I hope the jet lag has worn off.

You just got back from your first international trip with a six-month in tow.

How old is, how old is that?

He was seven months old when we left on the trip.

Yeah, it was, yeah, that 11-hour flight across the, across the country and then across the Atlantic is, you know, it's an adventure in itself. Yeah. I feel like, I mean, it's a good time to you because they can't walk so they're not like, can I walk down the aisle of the plane seven thousand times because that'll happen. Yeah, we're still in what we call like cute potato stage.

Yeah.

You know, where the baby's small enough that you kind of just take them around with you.

But I also feel like you're right at that stage where you're starting to see some of that

personality come alive.

Like you can start to see determination or some might call that stubbornness or a playfulness like

it really like wakes up in in kids at that moment in time and I'm curious like what do you think do

you have like trait like I've just been thinking about this like do you have traits that you feel like

were just part of you and they've always been a part of you, and they're just inherent versus things you've grown into.

Oh, totally. Yeah, it's pretty funny whether you're talking about, you know, I watch my son now.

It's just eight months old, that stubbornness, you know, he needs to feed himself. He's not very good at it,

so it's quite frustrating. But that like desire to be like, no, I will put the spoon in my own

mouth. And I think when I look back at myself, I also, one, see a lot of stubbornness and

determination that I'm sure my parents would tell you that I've always had.

And then I think, too, some of this kind of creative energy, for lack of a better word,

like I've always been really interested in crafts and writing.

You know, I wanted to be a writer when I was in elementary school.

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