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Kind of like the ACC's college football playoff chances are all up in smoke. Not a cloud.

Up in smoke after a very

good, terrible worst case scenario. And you know what I think is actually worse, Joe, than the

ACC finding itself with, what is this, not one, not two, five teams with one loss currently

in the ACC, creating a situation as one of our listeners pointed out to me on blue sky,

the classic astronauts looking at the earth with the gun pointed at one astronaut. Wait,

is it all ACC coastal? And the astronaut with the gun saying always has been. As another

listener pointed out, you see, you thought that by getting rid of the coastal,

you would get rid of coastal chaos and the circle of suck.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

The coastal was contained in a division.

But when you got rid of the division, now the coastal has broken contain.

And here we are, Joe.

But you know what's worse than the college football playoff situation?

No.

Clemson and Florida State played on Saturday.

Did you know that?

Did not.

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