Abuse in the Southern Baptist Convention
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🗓️ 24 August 2022
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
The Department of Justice announced this month that they were investigating allegations that leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention mishandled sexual abuse accusations for decades. How have abusers exploited the church’s decentralized structure and notions of forgiveness to avoid accountability, and how have church teachings about sexuality and “purity culture” allowed the abuse to continue?
Guest: Robert Downen, reporter at the Houston Chronicle.
Jules Woodson, co-Founder & COO of Help;Hear;Heal, a nonprofit providing therapy funding for survivors of sexual abuse.
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| 0:00.0 | I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time. |
| 0:10.0 | Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is a sweaty armpit |
| 0:15.0 | because your wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps and heath and you get to the top |
| 0:20.0 | and you're like, and then you can see the breath but then your nose is still freezing to touch. |
| 0:25.0 | Joy in every sip with red carp's now back at Starbucks. |
| 0:32.0 | Hi listeners. Today's episode contains descriptions of sexual assault. |
| 0:37.0 | At the end of the show, we'll give you a resource in case you or someone you love needs some support. |
| 0:46.0 | When Jules Woodson was growing up in the 80s and 90s, her church was everything. |
| 0:53.0 | The church was my family outside of my biological family. |
| 1:00.0 | I was basically born into the church. |
| 1:05.0 | Her family moved to the Woodlands Texas when she was five and joined a local Baptist church, Woodlands Parkway. |
| 1:11.0 | It was part of the Southern Baptist Convention, also known as the SBC, the largest Protestant denomination in the US, and one of the most conservative. |
| 1:20.0 | When Jules was 14, a new youth pastor, Andy Savage joined Woodlands Parkway. |
| 1:26.0 | Her mom was on the committee who picked him. |
| 1:29.0 | Here we have this energetic, charismatic youth pastor coming on who is going to grow the youth group. |
| 1:37.0 | And that was just exciting. And of course I wanted to please him. |
| 1:43.0 | I definitely looked up to him as a role model, as a leader. |
| 1:48.0 | The youth group spent a ton of time together, even when there were no organized events. |
| 1:53.0 | One week day during her senior year of high school, the group was hanging out at the church after school. |
| 1:59.0 | We were sitting around playing music, Andy, and another boy from the youth group, played guitar. |
| 2:07.0 | And so we would sit around and sing worship songs. And so we had just been hanging out doing that. |
| 2:13.0 | And slowly, you know, people trickled out, and eventually it was coming down to where it was just Andy and I. |
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