Summary
You don't know what you don't know.
— Jordan Crucchiola is an associate editor at Vulture, where this spring she wrote "An Asexual's Defense of Jughead Kissing Betty on Riverdale."
— Ben Schwartz is a LARP writer at the Wayfinder Experience.
Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Drake Stafford ("In Heaven"), Age of Escapism ("Done With Disco" and "Start Over"), Kai Engel ("Daedalus" and "Low Horizon"), and Ultra Cat ("Disco High"). Theme by Alexander Overington.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Tobin, here's the thing about Matt, our producer, Matt, that you probably already know. |
| 0:04.4 | He both loves and hates very strongly. |
| 0:07.1 | There's no gray area, it's true. |
| 0:09.9 | Sometimes it can get infuriating. |
| 0:12.4 | It's true, but I also feel like the line between what he loves and hates is very blurry. |
| 0:18.5 | So like, he hated the show Westworld. |
| 0:22.1 | And I knew that he hated the show Westworld because he would come into work in the morning |
| 0:26.6 | and tell me about the recap podcast of Westworld that he had listened to so that he could talk |
| 0:32.5 | more about why he hated Westworld. |
| 0:35.8 | For you and me, we hated the thing, we would just stop watching it. |
| 0:38.6 | Right. |
| 0:39.6 | On the flip side, Matt loves just as strongly the show Riverdale. |
| 0:43.0 | Oh my god. |
| 0:44.0 | On the CW. |
| 0:45.0 | Oh my god. |
| 0:46.0 | He started watching it, loved it immediately. |
| 0:49.2 | No idea why. |
| 0:51.3 | And he got our editor Jenny involved. |
| 0:54.0 | And then he got me on board. |
| 0:56.3 | And it just kind of feel like he was slowly surrounding you maybe. |
| 1:00.8 | Yes, I was the last hold down because I refused to engage in this nonsense of like, |
| 1:06.5 | we're going to take the archie comics, but we're going to make them dark and murderous and sexy. |
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