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🗓️ 21 March 2024
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Abraham Lincoln is often thought of as the most loved president in America's history, but how much do we know about his personal life?
Furthermore, how much do we know about his sexuality, and the potential he might have been gay?
Joining Kate today are Callie Hawkins and Joan Cummins, who work at Lincoln Cottage, where he lived for over a quarter of his presidency.
They also host their podcast, Q&Abe, which covers questions that visitors to the cottage often ask them, including whether he was gay or not.
This podcast was edited and produced by Stuart Beckwith. The senior producer was Charlotte Long.
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1:00.0 | The year is 1837, and the sun is setting on another day in Springfield, Illinois. And I don't know about you betwixters, but I quite fancy a drink. |
1:04.0 | While we sink a few jars in this tavern, down the street from us a young Abraham Lincoln is training to be a lawyer and to save a few Bob |
1:17.2 | but he's making a home for himself in a room above Joshua Speed's local store. |
1:23.0 | Speed and Lincoln will strike up a close friendship, |
1:26.0 | the closest in Lincoln's entire life, in fact, |
1:29.0 | and they will share a bed for the next three years. |
1:33.4 | Yeah. Now, men had very close friendships at this time, that was incredibly common, |
1:38.8 | and men certainly did share beds from time to time to save a few quid here and there. |
1:44.0 | But sharing a bed for three years. |
1:47.0 | That's a long, long time in anyone's book. |
1:51.0 | Mm. |
1:52.0 | The length of that and the intensity of their friendship will have people |
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