Abraham Lincoln, Originalist | Interview: Akhil Amar
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🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Ready? |
| 0:01.0 | I was born ready. |
| 0:04.0 | Welcome to advisory opinions. I'm Sarah Isger. That's David French. And do we have a special guest for y'all today? Should I tell you? Or should we just wait until after the break? His new book, Born Equal, coming out September 16th, the day before Constitution Day. I think I've given you quite a few hints right back after |
| 0:39.3 | this. |
| 0:42.8 | Professor Akeel, Reid, Amar, welcome back to the podcast. |
| 0:48.2 | Thank you for having me back. |
| 0:50.2 | You know, we had you after your first of this series of books. You're doing three books. |
| 0:56.8 | Yes. The Fellowship of the Ring, the Two Towers, and the Return of the King. And now I finish the |
| 1:03.8 | second one. The Words that Made Us is one of my favorite legal slash constitutional slash American history books. And here we're picking up |
| 1:14.6 | in the run up to the Civil War with your new book called Born Equal. You can pre-order it. |
| 1:19.3 | I have pre-ordered it. I'm, yeah, he's showing it to us right here. And it's beautiful. It even |
| 1:24.1 | has color maps, which are historical and like really, really |
| 1:27.6 | gorgeous maps. And if you don't know, it means he's also a really big deal as a writer, |
| 1:32.8 | because most publishers will laugh in your face if you want color pictures in your book. But not |
| 1:38.3 | if you're Professor Amar, then you get all the color pictures you want. And by the way, David French, you sound maybe not |
| 1:46.3 | like death, but like heated up, death, warmed over? My volume on words is going to be a little |
| 1:51.8 | lower. I spent the last four days outside of Medellin, Colombia, where my niece was getting married |
| 1:57.4 | to this wonderful Colombian man and was wonderful time. And I don't know if I |
| 2:03.5 | picked up a bug or if the act of shouting over pounding Latin music for many, many hours over the |
| 2:10.9 | weekends has did this to me. All right. I want to start where you actually start in this book, but I want to go even a little maybe |
| 2:20.6 | bigger picture. If one is an originalist, whatever that might mean, how are we supposed to think |
| 2:28.9 | about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the second founding, the post-Civil War amendments, |
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