About... Why Burnout Hits First Generation Women So Hard (with Dr. Phebe Brako)
Tell Me More with Nicole Walters
Dear Media
4.8 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
What happens when you stop and ask yourself, "Who is this all for?"
Friend this one is a THERAPY SESSION with Dr. Phebe Brako, a licensed therapist supporting immigrants and individuals of the Global Majority to heal, grow, and build homes away from home.
We Chat About:
- The difference between stress, burnout, and actual trauma
- Why so many high-achieving women feel unsafe slowing down
- How immigrant and first-generation women learn to over-perform for survival
- Parenting differently than you were parented and the emotions that come with it
- The guilt many women feel around rest, pleasure, and spending money on themselves
We also get into the emotional reality of being “the strong one,” the accidental breadwinner, the high performer everyone depends on… while secretly feeling exhausted, anxious, and terrified of slowing down.
And honestly? This chat challenged me personally in ways I WASN'T expecting.
If you’ve ever felt like you had to earn your place in every room you walk into…
If resting makes you uncomfortable…
If success still somehow doesn’t feel like enough…
... This chat is going to hit hard in the best possible way.
Connect with Dr. Phebe:
- Watch Dr. Phebe's new podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@phebebrakolmft
- Learn more about how you can work with Dr. Phebe: https://www.phebebrakolmft.com/
- On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drphebebrako/
Connect with Nicole:
- On her *new* Substack: https://nicolewaltersofficial.substack.com/
- On Threads: https://threads.net/nicolewalters
- WATCH Tell Me More: http://nicolewalters.com/youtube
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a Dear Media production. |
| 0:06.6 | Welcome to the Tell Me More podcast with Nicole Walters, the only podcast where I'm not seeking to make you think more like me, but to help you keep thinking for yourself. |
| 0:34.3 | Okay, y'all, I need you to stop whatever you're doing right now because this conversation is one of those that I know I'm going to be thinking about for a long, long time. |
| 0:38.7 | Now, my guest today, Dr. Phoebe, is if I call you Dr. Phoebe? I'm trying to'm trying to brand that, but I don't know how you feel about. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that works. My guest today is Dr. |
| 0:43.3 | Phoebe. She's a licensed therapist, heavy on the licensed doctoral researcher and gunnian |
| 0:50.1 | immigrant who built one of the most respected mental health practices in the Pacific Northwest. |
| 0:55.1 | Now, her practice, 253 therapy and consult, exists to serve immigrants, first generation |
| 1:00.6 | professionals, and the families who are doing their best to hold two worlds together at the same |
| 1:05.3 | time. Now, she also trains the next generation of culturally competent clinicians because |
| 1:09.9 | she understands something that I think most people miss. Healing should never require you to erase also trains the next generation of culturally competent clinicians because you understand something |
| 1:10.9 | that I think most people miss. Healing should never require you to erase who you are. So today, |
| 1:17.3 | we're going there. We're going to talk about what the current political climate is actually doing |
| 1:21.4 | to the mental health of immigrant communities, not the talking points. And, you know, the real |
| 1:26.3 | stuff that I think is showing up behind the scenes in the |
| 1:28.7 | therapy rooms. And I also want to talk about what happens when, cough, cough, a high achieving |
| 1:34.4 | first generation professional loses or quits their job and why it ends up being so much more than a paycheck. |
| 1:42.0 | I really want to get into something I want to unpack for a while. |
| 1:45.2 | Why do immigrant women and first generation and old school grew up with nothing women overachieve? |
| 1:52.7 | What is this drive actually about? And what is it really costing us? So if you've ever had to |
| 1:58.1 | earn your right to be in a room that was not built for you, this one is going to hit and it's going to hit hard. Let's get into it. Thank you for being here, Dr. Phoebe. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Listen, look, I'm not even going to lie right now. I'm just doing a free therapy session. Selfishly. You know. For the free 99. |
| 2:17.8 | I'm the problem. |
| 2:19.0 | Okay. |
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